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Post by chreelister on Feb 9, 2024 13:45:17 GMT
I believe Findell has cracked the code on EE and has a beta test up and running. You guys want to beta test it, that would be great. It is password protected, the password is ccc. You can easily find it under 3T Beta Test under their Gamespy like option. Hopefully this will tide us over until Saturday and give us plenty of options after we finally find out what is up with the current server. For now it is an old mod, from 2011. So this is before the 2nd round of widgets, before Trighton, before Darkmoor, before Avarice, before the Barb changes, drones, clones, randoms, tokens, new forge stones, etc. Also the loot generator is broken for now, a fix is in the works, but you will only get tier 1 drops. If you wanted 3T to be hard like it was back in the day, well this is it.
Also congratulations to Findell, for figuring this out, also a lot faster than I thought it would take. Awesome Work!!! This will help us keep 3T alive no matter what is going on with the current server.
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Post by Findell on Feb 9, 2024 15:51:11 GMT
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Post by mcbutcher on Feb 9, 2024 16:04:43 GMT
Findell you big bundle of Savage! (that's a compliment where I'm from)
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Post by tils on Feb 9, 2024 18:17:09 GMT
Logged in and killing rats
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Post by perfiddy on Feb 9, 2024 20:11:20 GMT
Does anyone have any advice on the best site to purchase a copy of NWN EE from?
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Post by Findell on Feb 9, 2024 20:28:29 GMT
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Post by kid on Feb 10, 2024 9:08:32 GMT
I believe Findell has cracked the code on EE and has a beta test up and running. You guys want to beta test it, that would be great. It is password protected, the password is ccc. You can easily find it under 3T Beta Test under their Gamespy like option. Hopefully this will tide us over until Saturday and give us plenty of options after we finally find out what is up with the current server. For now it is an old mod, from 2011. So this is before the 2nd round of widgets, before Trighton, before Darkmoor, before Avarice, before the Barb changes, drones, clones, randoms, tokens, new forge stones, etc. Also the loot generator is broken for now, a fix is in the works, but you will only get tier 1 drops. If you wanted 3T to be hard like it was back in the day, well this is it.
Also congratulations to Findell, for figuring this out, also a lot faster than I thought it would take. Awesome Work!!! This will help us keep 3T alive no matter what is going on with the current server.
Does that mean in the future it will be possible to port the most up to date version of the server? Also, since it's been one of the big roadblocks for the server, how is the EE version in regards to assets?
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Post by Findell on Feb 10, 2024 9:23:33 GMT
If all the data (vault, db, mod) is still there I can port the current mod to EE without much difficulty. Regarding the assets I'm not sure to get your question right but there is no resource limitation on EE. Also, if we need / want to use custom textures, haks etc, they can be downloaded automatically.
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Post by kid on Feb 10, 2024 9:40:10 GMT
Yeah that was what I was talking about, clearly I'm still not fully awake.
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Post by mcbutcher on Feb 10, 2024 11:53:19 GMT
The custom haks and stuff could add endless possibilities.
I remember years ago, reading about some hak to make custom classes and stuff can't remember the name, something like PRC. It sounded unreal
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Post by taroc on Feb 10, 2024 13:19:13 GMT
The custom haks and stuff could add endless possibilities. I remember years ago, reading about some hak to make custom classes and stuff can't remember the name, something like PRC. It sounded unreal Yeah it's the PRC. But I'd be cautious adding it, if you know 3T's history of nerfs and buffs just trying to 'balance' the base classes, trying to do the same with the added PRC would be impossible. I say 'balance' because they'll never be balanced but I think where we're at with them is pretty close. Aside from barbs. Since PvP isn't a thing anymore, maybe we don't care about balance? If not then I'd be all for PRC as it has some great options for monks - the best feat being Intuitive Attack where you use Wis as your stat for AB instead of Str or Dex. The CEP would also be a fantastic addition adding so much more new stuff. What I'd like to see is Epic Dodge reinstated, having played several characters with it on others servers I can say it's not OP since the original issue with it has been fixed (was fixed in 1.69). Also many other servers allow Devastating Critical but have custom changes to it, e.g. more damage or extra multiplier instead of insta-kill. We need a reason to take Whirlwind Attack, other than a prerequisite for WM (but otherwise a waste of a feat). We had a no-Hak policy to make 3T easy to get into for beginners but with EE NWSync makes adding Haks so easy there's no reason not to include stuff we want in the mod. Anyways, getting ahead of myself, we need a working server first
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Post by chreelister on Feb 10, 2024 14:27:56 GMT
Depending on what is up with the server at the moment, we could run EE with the current version, with this old version, maybe even keep the same server vault, or run a total different variation of 3T all together, run both versions, etc. the possibilities are endless.
Yeah EE doesn't have a limit to resources. So we could say do 1 more update to old 3T and then add on to EE from then on. I have no idea how big a mod could be, but I would assume you would still have some kind of limit.
We still got a couple of bug checks to do, stuff I had issues with 3T before and got to make sure the logs are working correctly. But I think Findell got the hardest part over with and the rest will be easy for him.
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Post by chreelister on Feb 10, 2024 14:30:13 GMT
I remember EE also having the easy fix for the Monk AB for whatever weapon you wanted.
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Post by taroc on Feb 10, 2024 14:43:40 GMT
I remember EE also having the easy fix for the Monk AB for whatever weapon you wanted. Would that be so you could allow things like a quarterstaff to be used with the monk AB progression and Flurry of Blows like you can with kama?
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Post by jarrod on Feb 10, 2024 15:38:32 GMT
Great that ee 3t is alive and the dev life will be so much easier now the resource problem is mostly gone.
What about that 3t spells and feats are really customised scripts from early diamond edition before version 1.69 (example invis is 1 x day only) becuase long ago the old 3t dev team got fed up waiting for bug fixes so just took early copy of the nwn scripts and then did a load of fixes/changes themselves. How well does all that mesh with ee ?
Im no 3t dev but do program software for work. I recall reading about this fork ages ago and making a posting about this on the forum as i found a website that records the web and had a bigger list of old 3t spell changes copied from the wiki before the last crash.
So when mixing 3t changes with ee is everything ok before start adding all the new stuff.
EE has more players than the old gog version and the old 3t players waiting for EE 3t server to play on. So i hope its a good experience for them.
Maybe run two severs: main stable and playtest. A stable where everyone plays normally and the updates are slower and a beta play test dev server that gets wiped often, features come and go as its for devs to allow players to test the new stuff, level up faster, see if its balanced and works ok etc but not persistent as its wiped often. Could even be password protected for the playtesters. Dont want to spoil all the surprises. If changes passes then makes it over to the main server everyone is playing on?
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