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Post by mcbutcher on Feb 12, 2024 11:19:27 GMT
Is there a plan to make the test server version to be closer to the existing 3t server?
Also, I'd like to suggest that you make it easier to level or give people access to gain faster xp if they want to (just on the test server). So you can get quicker test reports for end game.
This is only a test server so in my opinion it's a real waste of time having a slow levelling system where it'll take some people weeks to get a level 40 and the builds we make will be completely different because of no widgets etc
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Post by mcbutcher on Feb 12, 2024 11:20:36 GMT
Also, might be good for people to point out whether they prefered the server as it was back then or the more recent server version 😁
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Post by jarrod on Feb 12, 2024 11:29:05 GMT
Yah agree with Pole would be good to be able to make test builds just to see if classes like raks / pm / bards still work as before. Even better a wiki page or online spread sheet to post test results so players dont end up testing the same things and have somewhere to report what they found. All early days so give the devs a chance to catch up. From what I saw 3t EE looks really good so far
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Post by bolto on Feb 12, 2024 12:01:30 GMT
I do think this is going to be great for the game long term, given EE removes the most crippling aspect of current day 3T, the resource limit
I could really go with either on what server to end up on, though I would feel like if you tried to separate the playerbase across two servers it wouldn't exactly be a good thing given the playerbase currently isn't what it used to be, I probably will have a clearer idea after I played the older server for a bit, especially in terms of what should balancing be and what baseline of the server should be used for it
That said, there is a major hindrance I ran into while playing, and it is glaring at least for me, using the controls on WASD is basically impossible (At least for me) It causes MAJOR desync on the game client, and it has gotten me killed so many times (The game thinks I am half a map across, but then ports me right back to not even really moved too much and surrounded by mobs)
Oh course using mouse click doesn't cause this desync, but given I played on WASD for movement for so long, it's a really big potential dealbreaker for me, has anyone else ran into it or is it just me?
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Post by mcbutcher on Feb 12, 2024 12:32:31 GMT
Not sure I get you Bolto, is the WASD issue happening in EE or in regular 3t?
I had that issue happen to me in regular 3t. I do remember it happened to me more regularly years ago and I can't remember when it happened to me last but it was a long time ago.
The maps I remember it happening are COJ central crossroads, contested area West, but the one that it happened more often than any other was actually the ogre map with the boss hut is.
It didn't happen regularly enough for me to want to quit but it was annoying when it did happen.
But yeah, I would run through the area transition and I'd be standing at the AT on the new map clicking a space in front of me to move but my HP would start to go down until I'm eventually dead. Then the camera (and my dead body) would move to a part on the map with a crowd of enemies surrounding me
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Post by bolto on Feb 12, 2024 12:39:44 GMT
EE edition, I never had this happen to this extent in normal 3T, happened almost never on normal 3T
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Post by jarrod on Feb 12, 2024 13:32:17 GMT
Bolto does this happen on other EE servers you can connect to or just 3t ee?
What version of ee client number are you using? maybe switch to the latest one and it fixes some bugs.
What country are you in? maybe latency is not good between you and Findalls home server.
I imagine that a single click is one event to send to the server but pressing w is many events so network will play a bigger part for latency and bandwith.
When 3t was in a data center this helps with the latency which we never had a problem with i think as we have players in australia and usa connect to uk server.
ah wait i think i recall you are from australia ? well pretty much the worst latency possible and connecting to a home server in europe. missing w presses can be packet loss or its so late to arrive its thrown away as it got other later updates or chose your old position it last knew about.
What you can do is try a vpn to france. that will make a direct tunnel and prevent udp packet loss and then oddly you get a better connection.
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Post by mcbutcher on Feb 12, 2024 13:54:31 GMT
EE edition, I never had this happen to this extent in normal 3T, happened almost never on normal 3T Ah right. I've barely played on 3t EE so can't comment.
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Post by Findell on Feb 12, 2024 14:37:27 GMT
Yes Jarrod is right, try on another EE server first and then with a VPN if you can connect to one. Maybe it has something to with that part nwn.wiki/display/NWN1/Server+Performance+Settings look for "Message Update Limits" part. (it's server side configuration, so maybe I'll have to tweak something there). I have no problem with WASD, but that doesn't count
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Post by bolto on Feb 12, 2024 14:49:11 GMT
Bolto does this happen on other EE servers you can connect to or just 3t ee? What version of ee client number are you using? maybe switch to the latest one and it fixes some bugs. What country are you in? maybe latency is not good between you and Findalls home server. I imagine that a single click is one event to send to the server but pressing w is many events so network will play a bigger part for latency and bandwith. When 3t was in a data center this helps with the latency which we never had a problem with i think as we have players in australia and usa connect to uk server. ah wait i think i recall you are from australia ? well pretty much the worst latency possible and connecting to a home server in europe. missing w presses can be packet loss or its so late to arrive its thrown away as it got other later updates or chose your old position it last knew about. What you can do is try a vpn to france. that will make a direct tunnel and prevent udp packet loss and then oddly you get a better connection.
Should be the latest version given it is on steam (And it likes to keep things up to date)
Australia here, though that said, you would think that the 3T server being on UK is already close to worst case seancrio for me, yet while I never had instanteous outputs, it's never been a problem for me on the old server, .. I think almost anywhere else in theory should be an upgrade to my ping score lol, so the fact it is cutting out like this is really odd behaviour to me
It is possible though I might be experiencing packet loss on the pathing to this server, might be time to dig up a VPN to see if it solves my issues
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Post by chreelister on Feb 12, 2024 15:42:01 GMT
Is there a plan to make the test server version to be closer to the existing 3t server? Also, I'd like to suggest that you make it easier to level or give people access to gain faster xp if they want to (just on the test server). So you can get quicker test reports for end game. This is only a test server so in my opinion it's a real waste of time having a slow levelling system where it'll take some people weeks to get a level 40 and the builds we make will be completely different because of no widgets etc Well the plan was to be able to keep your characters if you could. If you offer any kind of free levels then it has to be off the table. I think if you truly want to test and just test, you could see if I, Findell or anyone else that could log in as DM and then put you where ever you want and then test away. Or just some way if you use a free level system then your character gets flagged for deletion. The other things that need tested also are, do you want a hard server like it was in 2011, how many players can the Findellnet handle and just the tasks of running the server and if we are missing anything, which can be done at any levels. I am hoping on whatever we decide as a server, I don't have to grind out Bandits and Lizards for days on end again.
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Post by chreelister on Feb 12, 2024 15:42:32 GMT
Bolto does this happen on other EE servers you can connect to or just 3t ee? What version of ee client number are you using? maybe switch to the latest one and it fixes some bugs. What country are you in? maybe latency is not good between you and Findalls home server. I imagine that a single click is one event to send to the server but pressing w is many events so network will play a bigger part for latency and bandwith. When 3t was in a data center this helps with the latency which we never had a problem with i think as we have players in australia and usa connect to uk server. ah wait i think i recall you are from australia ? well pretty much the worst latency possible and connecting to a home server in europe. missing w presses can be packet loss or its so late to arrive its thrown away as it got other later updates or chose your old position it last knew about. What you can do is try a vpn to france. that will make a direct tunnel and prevent udp packet loss and then oddly you get a better connection.
Should be the latest version given it is on steam (And it likes to keep things up to date)
Australia here, though that said, you would think that the 3T server being on UK is already close to worst case seancrio for me, yet while I never had instanteous outputs, it's never been a problem for me on the old server, .. I think almost anywhere else in theory should be an upgrade to my ping score lol, so the fact it is cutting out like this is really odd behaviour to me
It is possible though I might be experiencing packet loss on the pathing to this server, might be time to dig up a VPN to see if it solves my issues
Have you tried offline or a different server?
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Post by chreelister on Feb 12, 2024 15:44:21 GMT
Also, might be good for people to point out whether they prefered the server as it was back then or the more recent server version 😁 Yeah I would be curious on what the players are wanting here. Easy, hard, somewhere in the middle.
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Post by Findell on Feb 12, 2024 16:32:42 GMT
Or I can run a second instance of the server, with free xp free gold free items.
Password protected, 10 seats available, 10 euros each !
AHAH just kidding for the last part.
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Post by taroc on Feb 12, 2024 17:40:47 GMT
Is there a plan to make the test server version to be closer to the existing 3t server? Also, I'd like to suggest that you make it easier to level or give people access to gain faster xp if they want to (just on the test server). So you can get quicker test reports for end game. This is only a test server so in my opinion it's a real waste of time having a slow levelling system where it'll take some people weeks to get a level 40 and the builds we make will be completely different because of no widgets etc I am hoping on whatever we decide as a server, I don't have to grind out Bandits and Lizards for days on end again. This. Having been here since 10D was new I've killed more than my fair share of bandits.
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