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Post by tils on May 1, 2024 19:30:53 GMT
Hi all, first a question regarding wisdom and AC bonus on shifters. I was having a discussion with another player recently on this topic and we were not sure. Is the ac supposed to increase with the wisdom bonuses after you shift? With the air elly I had thought no it does not contribute to ac. I don't believe it did on 1.69 and it definitely does not on EE (at least not according to the sheet). If it should be something is broke as it does not contribute. The bug or concern is, if you have anything increasing your wisdom stats that expires or is dispelled after you shift it reduces your AC on the sheet by whatever the bonus may have been. For example on my elly when I shift with no buffs etc, my ac is 78. If I cast Owls wisdom I gain 10 wisdom when I shift my ac is still 78....BUT when I have owls wisdom cast in me when it expires or is dispelled my ac on the sheet drops to 73. That 10 wisdom would be 5 points of AC typically. So the deduction is coming off. I don't think this is working as intended
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Post by psv38 on May 1, 2024 20:44:26 GMT
I don't know how it works now for shifted builds with monk lvls, but in 1.69 before the crash, monks got 1 ac per 3 monk lvls rounded up if you had the wisdom requirement.
Example, build is 20 druid/10monk/10fighter, the standard ele build with say 20 wisdom.
That's normally 5 ac on a non shifter monk build, but in this example, you would "only" get 4 ac (3 for 9 monk levels +1 for monk lvl 10 rounded up for 4 total).
Monk lvls 1-3 = 1 ac. (12 wis req'd) Monk lvls 4-6 = 2 ac. (14 wis req'd) Monk lvls 7-9 = 3 ac. (16 wis req'd) monk lvls 10-12= 4 ac (18 wis req'd) etc...
And don't forget to add the following in your ac calculations, the +1 ac monks get for lvls 5-10-15-20-25-30-35-40!
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Post by mcbutcher on May 2, 2024 5:55:33 GMT
The same bug happened in 1.69, what I believe is happening is your wisdom bonus AC is already capped (I think) so you're not getting any AC from it. But if you have any wisdom bonus added by spells and then shift, a dispell removes what would have been the wisdom bonus AC added by the wisdom that was buffed.
This does not (or did not) happen for any wisdom from items.
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Post by apecraze on May 2, 2024 17:01:33 GMT
Might be worth testing this with another player attacking you ( must be an AA I guess ....) or vs some end game monster, as I remember character sheets of shifters can also be a bit buggy not showing the right AC (or even AB)?
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